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Mises remarks

I guess you're right that Mises didn't explicitly mention suicide in that chapter, although he mentioned that when "the forces of resignation get the upper hand, man dies; he does not turn into a plant". That sounds like suicide to me. The hospice patient who quits eating or drinking any longer because he has given up on the possibility of future accomplishments or enjoyments would fit very well the description of what Mises is writing about. FormerContributor-78162cb3 (talk) 14:02, 31 October 2012 (MSK)

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 ==Mises remarks==
-I guess you're right that Mises didn't explicitly mention suicide in that chapter, although he [http://mises.org/daily/6082/ mentioned] that when "the forces of resignation get the upper hand, man dies; he does not turn into a plant". That sounds like suicide to me. The hospice patient who quits eating or drinking any longer because he has given up on the possibility of future accomplishments or enjoyments would fit very well the description of what Mises is writing about. [[User:Nathan Larson|Nathan Larson]] ([[User talk:Nathan Larson|talk]]) 14:02, 31 October 2012 (MSK)
+I guess you're right that Mises didn't explicitly mention suicide in that chapter, although he [http://mises.org/daily/6082/ mentioned] that when "the forces of resignation get the upper hand, man dies; he does not turn into a plant". That sounds like suicide to me. The hospice patient who quits eating or drinking any longer because he has given up on the possibility of future accomplishments or enjoyments would fit very well the description of what Mises is writing about. [[User:FormerContributor-78162cb3|FormerContributor-78162cb3]] ([[User talk:FormerContributor-78162cb3|talk]]) 14:02, 31 October 2012 (MSK)
-==Common responses, by other libertarians, to libertarians who express suicidal ideation==
-*"You should kill the tyrants, not yourself" (note, however, that if a libertarian actually does attempt to do this, libertarians will immediately distance themselves from him, regarding him as a possible ''[[agent provocateur]]'' or at best a rash individual)
-*"You have a duty to yourself to preserve your own life" (see also [[John Stuart Mills]]' arguments at http://psychology.wikia.com/wiki/Philosophical_views_of_suicide#Classical_Liberalism)
-*"It takes more courage to live for a noble cause than to die for it, and it will do more good for the world" (thus replacing "Give me liberty or give me death" with "Give me liberty, please, sir. I am prepared to wait the rest of my life for you to grant my request, whilst patiently going about my business within the restrictions imposed by legislation.")
-[[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 21:38, 3 January 2014 (MSK)