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Contributor de-identification

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FormerContributor-78162cb3: Reverted edits by 182.253.50.245 (talk) to last revision by Pestergaines

2013-11-20T15:44:04Z

Reverted edits by 182.253.50.245 (talk) to last revision by Pestergaines

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	Sometimes wikis are launched as a reaction to their points of views not being allowed free expression on other wikis. For example, many conservative, Young Earth Creationist editors who didn't get along with the leaders of Conservapedia went to Ameriwiki,<ref>http://ameriwiki.org/</ref> while many other (mostly non-Christian) editors banned from Conservapedia went to RationalWiki. Some sites, such as BoyWiki/NewgonWiki and Metapedia, cater to very specific editor populations that are typically ''persona non grata'', and whose views are typically suppressed, virtually everywhere else in the wikisphere.		Sometimes wikis are launched as a reaction to their points of views not being allowed free expression on other wikis. For example, many conservative, Young Earth Creationist editors who didn't get along with the leaders of Conservapedia went to Ameriwiki,<ref>http://ameriwiki.org/</ref> while many other (mostly non-Christian) editors banned from Conservapedia went to RationalWiki. Some sites, such as BoyWiki/NewgonWiki and Metapedia, cater to very specific editor populations that are typically ''persona non grata'', and whose views are typically suppressed, virtually everywhere else in the wikisphere.
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	====RationalWiki====		====RationalWiki====

182.253.50.245 at 07:52, 20 November 2013

2013-11-20T07:52:00Z

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	Sometimes wikis are launched as a reaction to their points of views not being allowed free expression on other wikis. For example, many conservative, Young Earth Creationist editors who didn't get along with the leaders of Conservapedia went to Ameriwiki,<ref>http://ameriwiki.org/</ref> while many other (mostly non-Christian) editors banned from Conservapedia went to RationalWiki. Some sites, such as BoyWiki/NewgonWiki and Metapedia, cater to very specific editor populations that are typically ''persona non grata'', and whose views are typically suppressed, virtually everywhere else in the wikisphere.		Sometimes wikis are launched as a reaction to their points of views not being allowed free expression on other wikis. For example, many conservative, Young Earth Creationist editors who didn't get along with the leaders of Conservapedia went to Ameriwiki,<ref>http://ameriwiki.org/</ref> while many other (mostly non-Christian) editors banned from Conservapedia went to RationalWiki. Some sites, such as BoyWiki/NewgonWiki and Metapedia, cater to very specific editor populations that are typically ''persona non grata'', and whose views are typically suppressed, virtually everywhere else in the wikisphere.
			[http://www.awanirentcar.com Sewa mobil jakarta], [http://kiosauto.com Aksesoris mobil], [http://www.awanirentcar.com/pricelist Sewa mobil jakarta selatan], [http://mariposa-store.com/ Jual sepatu online], [http://www.tokobungasabana.com Toko bunga online]

	====RationalWiki====		====RationalWiki====

Pestergaines: Removed editorializing.

2012-11-14T15:24:15Z

Removed editorializing.

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 ====RationalWiki====
-RationalWiki is a site whose stated purpose consists of analyzing and refuting [[pseudoscience]] and the [[Antiscience|anti-science]] movement; documenting the full range of [[Crank (person)|crank]] ideas; explorations of [[authoritarianism]] and [[fundamentalism]]; and analysis and criticism of how these subjects are handled in the media. RationalWiki invites users to engage in "constructive dialog."<ref>http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/RationalWiki:Constructive_dialogue</ref> In practice, "users, by bickering, shouting, unilateral actions, complaints about unilateral actions, and ad hoc voting eventually reach a mass consensus" in a mobocratic process.<ref>http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Mobocracy</ref> RationalWiki was supposedly intended to counter the flawed thinking and [[argumentation]] of some believers in [[theism]], [[creationism]], and other mainstream philosophies. However, the editors are typically happy to engage in the same sort of flawed reasoning, or lazy unwillingness to consider opposing arguments, as their opponents, when it comes to their own beliefs.
+RationalWiki is a site whose stated purpose consists of analyzing and refuting [[pseudoscience]] and the [[Antiscience|anti-science]] movement; documenting the full range of [[Crank (person)|crank]] ideas; explorations of [[authoritarianism]] and [[fundamentalism]]; and analysis and criticism of how these subjects are handled in the media. RationalWiki invites users to engage in "constructive dialog."<ref>http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/RationalWiki:Constructive_dialogue</ref> In practice, "users, by bickering, shouting, unilateral actions, complaints about unilateral actions, and ad hoc voting eventually reach a mass consensus" in a mobocratic process.<ref>http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Mobocracy</ref>
 ===Other purposes===
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 ==For-profit and nonprofit==
-The only major for-profit wiki farm in the wikisphere is Wikia, run by Jimbo Wales. Wikia uses a forked version of MediaWiki that is not known to be in production use anywhere else. Much of Wikia's core community (the "civil society" of the wiki farm, as it were) was alienated by various policies that were imposed in a top-down manner. Wikia sites are covered with distracting advertisements, with a high ratio of screen devoted to advertising vs. screen space devoted to content.
+The only{{Fact}} major for-profit wiki farm in the wikisphere is Wikia, run by Jimbo Wales. Wikia uses a forked version of MediaWiki that is not known to be in production use anywhere else.
 Corporate or public relations wikis can sometimes be considered "for profit," in that they help the company either organize its activities (e.g. by assisting inter-employee communication) or provide information to the public. There are wikis owned by sole proprietors, but typically these operate at a loss. Usually the focus is more on mission than on profits.

FormerContributor-78162cb3: /* Wikis and wiki farms */

2012-11-10T18:49:21Z

Wikis and wiki farms

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	\|[[Mises Wiki]]		\|[[Mises Wiki]]

FormerContributor-78162cb3: /* RationalWikiWiki, RationalWikiWikiWiki, and RationalWikiWikiWikisWiki */

2012-10-04T11:09:16Z

RationalWikiWiki, RationalWikiWikiWiki, and RationalWikiWikiWikisWiki

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	Some RWW users had also criticized the RWWW site owner for using a [[Creative Commons\|CC-by-SA]]-licensed image from their site without their permission and for giving the site a name that was a derivative of RationalWikiWiki's. They complained that this was inappropriate since the site was used for the voicing of opinions not representative of the views of RWW editors. The irony of a site whose own name was a derivative of "RationalWiki," and which devoted itself to critiquing and mocking that wiki, complaining about another site doing the same to it, seemed to escape them, as did the fact that the creation of an independent wiki for the purpose of ''agreeing'' with RWW would be pointless. The necessity of a fork arises when there are irreconcilable disagreements about site policy or content, and someone wants to break free of the restrictions imposed by those in control of a wiki by establishing a new wiki.		Some RWW users had also criticized the RWWW site owner for using a [[Creative Commons\|CC-by-SA]]-licensed image from their site without their permission and for giving the site a name that was a derivative of RationalWikiWiki's. They complained that this was inappropriate since the site was used for the voicing of opinions not representative of the views of RWW editors. The irony of a site whose own name was a derivative of "RationalWiki," and which devoted itself to critiquing and mocking that wiki, complaining about another site doing the same to it, seemed to escape them, as did the fact that the creation of an independent wiki for the purpose of ''agreeing'' with RWW would be pointless. The necessity of a fork arises when there are irreconcilable disagreements about site policy or content, and someone wants to break free of the restrictions imposed by those in control of a wiki by establishing a new wiki.

	Furthermore, there is a long history of organizations critical of other organizations or movements incorporating the name of the criticized organizations or movements in their own names. Examples would include Wikipedia Review, Right Wing Watch, School of the Americas Watch, and so on. Such names help the reader by making it immediately evident to him what organization or movement the group is devoted to criticizing. In the wake of the RW and RWW users' refusing to debate the RWWW users in any debate forum, under any set of rules, with any moderator, under any circumstances, on certain subjects of controversy; and the RW and RWW users' efforts to suppress expression of dissident viewpoints on not only their own sites but on other sites; the RWWWians declared victory, noting that their opponents had effectively [[forfeiture of debate\|forfeited]]. However, they left the RWWW site in place as a memorial to the achievement. On 15 September 2012, the site was resurrected at NearlyFreeSpeech.NET, a webhost ~~that specializes in hosting controversial sites~~.		Furthermore, there is a long history of organizations critical of other organizations or movements incorporating the name of the criticized organizations or movements in their own names. Examples would include Wikipedia Review, Right Wing Watch, School of the Americas Watch, and so on. Such names help the reader by making it immediately evident to him what organization or movement the group is devoted to criticizing. In the wake of the RW and RWW users' refusing to debate the RWWW users in any debate forum, under any set of rules, with any moderator, under any circumstances, on certain subjects of controversy; and the RW and RWW users' efforts to suppress expression of dissident viewpoints on not only their own sites but on other sites; the RWWWians declared victory, noting that their opponents had effectively [[forfeiture of debate\|forfeited]]. However, they left the RWWW site in place as a memorial to the achievement. On 15 September 2012, the site was resurrected at NearlyFreeSpeech.NET, a [[free speech webhost]]; due to NFSN's technical difficulties and limitations, the site was subsequently moved on 22 September 2012 to DreamHost.

	Another site, RationalWikiWikiWikisWiki, provides commentary and meta-meta-meta-analysis on the various RationalWikiWikiWikis, past and present.<ref>http://rationalwikiwikiwikiswiki.referata.com/wiki/List_of_RationalWikiWikiWikis</ref> Presently, there is only one RationalWikiWikiWiki remaining, so RationalWikiWikiWikisWiki's name is a bit of a misnomer.		Another site, RationalWikiWikiWikisWiki, provides commentary and meta-meta-meta-analysis on the various RationalWikiWikiWikis, past and present.<ref>http://rationalwikiwikiwikiswiki.referata.com/wiki/List_of_RationalWikiWikiWikis</ref> Presently, there is only one RationalWikiWikiWiki remaining, so RationalWikiWikiWikisWiki's name is a bit of a misnomer.

FormerContributor-78162cb3: /* RationalWikiWiki, RationalWikiWikiWiki, and RationalWikiWikiWikisWiki */

2012-09-16T00:09:16Z

RationalWikiWiki, RationalWikiWikiWiki, and RationalWikiWikiWikisWiki

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	Some RWW users had also criticized the RWWW site owner for using a [[Creative Commons\|CC-by-SA]]-licensed image from their site without their permission and for giving the site a name that was a derivative of RationalWikiWiki's. They complained that this was inappropriate since the site was used for the voicing of opinions not representative of the views of RWW editors. The irony of a site whose own name was a derivative of "RationalWiki," and which devoted itself to critiquing and mocking that wiki, complaining about another site doing the same to it, seemed to escape them, as did the fact that the creation of an independent wiki for the purpose of ''agreeing'' with RWW would be pointless. The necessity of a fork arises when there are irreconcilable disagreements about site policy or content, and someone wants to break free of the restrictions imposed by those in control of a wiki by establishing a new wiki.		Some RWW users had also criticized the RWWW site owner for using a [[Creative Commons\|CC-by-SA]]-licensed image from their site without their permission and for giving the site a name that was a derivative of RationalWikiWiki's. They complained that this was inappropriate since the site was used for the voicing of opinions not representative of the views of RWW editors. The irony of a site whose own name was a derivative of "RationalWiki," and which devoted itself to critiquing and mocking that wiki, complaining about another site doing the same to it, seemed to escape them, as did the fact that the creation of an independent wiki for the purpose of ''agreeing'' with RWW would be pointless. The necessity of a fork arises when there are irreconcilable disagreements about site policy or content, and someone wants to break free of the restrictions imposed by those in control of a wiki by establishing a new wiki.

	Furthermore, there is a long history of organizations critical of other organizations or movements incorporating the name of the criticized organizations or movements in their own names. Examples would include Wikipedia Review, Right Wing Watch, School of the Americas Watch, and so on. Such names help the reader by making it immediately evident to him what organization or movement the group is devoted to criticizing. In the wake of the RW and RWW users' refusing to debate the RWWW users in any debate forum, under any set of rules, with any moderator, under any circumstances, on certain subjects of controversy; and the RW and RWW users' efforts to suppress expression of dissident viewpoints on not only their own sites but on other sites; the RWWWians declared victory, noting that their opponents had effectively [[forfeiture of debate\|forfeited]]. However, they left the RWWW site in place as a memorial to the achievement.		Furthermore, there is a long history of organizations critical of other organizations or movements incorporating the name of the criticized organizations or movements in their own names. Examples would include Wikipedia Review, Right Wing Watch, School of the Americas Watch, and so on. Such names help the reader by making it immediately evident to him what organization or movement the group is devoted to criticizing. In the wake of the RW and RWW users' refusing to debate the RWWW users in any debate forum, under any set of rules, with any moderator, under any circumstances, on certain subjects of controversy; and the RW and RWW users' efforts to suppress expression of dissident viewpoints on not only their own sites but on other sites; the RWWWians declared victory, noting that their opponents had effectively [[forfeiture of debate\|forfeited]]. However, they left the RWWW site in place as a memorial to the achievement. On 15 September 2012, the site was resurrected at NearlyFreeSpeech.NET, a webhost that specializes in hosting controversial sites.

	Another site, RationalWikiWikiWikisWiki, provides commentary and meta-meta-meta-analysis on the various RationalWikiWikiWikis, past and present.<ref>http://rationalwikiwikiwikiswiki.referata.com/wiki/List_of_RationalWikiWikiWikis</ref> Presently, there is only one RationalWikiWikiWiki remaining, so RationalWikiWikiWikisWiki's name is a bit of a misnomer.		Another site, RationalWikiWikiWikisWiki, provides commentary and meta-meta-meta-analysis on the various RationalWikiWikiWikis, past and present.<ref>http://rationalwikiwikiwikiswiki.referata.com/wiki/List_of_RationalWikiWikiWikis</ref> Presently, there is only one RationalWikiWikiWiki remaining, so RationalWikiWikiWikisWiki's name is a bit of a misnomer.

FormerContributor-78162cb3: /* Points of view */

2012-09-14T21:12:33Z

Points of view

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	RationalWiki is a site whose stated purpose consists of analyzing and refuting [[pseudoscience]] and the [[Antiscience\|anti-science]] movement; documenting the full range of [[Crank (person)\|crank]] ideas; explorations of [[authoritarianism]] and [[fundamentalism]]; and analysis and criticism of how these subjects are handled in the media. RationalWiki invites users to engage in "constructive dialog."<ref>http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/RationalWiki:Constructive_dialogue</ref> In practice, "users, by bickering, shouting, unilateral actions, complaints about unilateral actions, and ad hoc voting eventually reach a mass consensus" in a mobocratic process.<ref>http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Mobocracy</ref> RationalWiki was supposedly intended to counter the flawed thinking and [[argumentation]] of some believers in [[theism]], [[creationism]], and other mainstream philosophies. However, the editors are typically happy to engage in the same sort of flawed reasoning, or lazy unwillingness to consider opposing arguments, as their opponents, when it comes to their own beliefs.		RationalWiki is a site whose stated purpose consists of analyzing and refuting [[pseudoscience]] and the [[Antiscience\|anti-science]] movement; documenting the full range of [[Crank (person)\|crank]] ideas; explorations of [[authoritarianism]] and [[fundamentalism]]; and analysis and criticism of how these subjects are handled in the media. RationalWiki invites users to engage in "constructive dialog."<ref>http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/RationalWiki:Constructive_dialogue</ref> In practice, "users, by bickering, shouting, unilateral actions, complaints about unilateral actions, and ad hoc voting eventually reach a mass consensus" in a mobocratic process.<ref>http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Mobocracy</ref> RationalWiki was supposedly intended to counter the flawed thinking and [[argumentation]] of some believers in [[theism]], [[creationism]], and other mainstream philosophies. However, the editors are typically happy to engage in the same sort of flawed reasoning, or lazy unwillingness to consider opposing arguments, as their opponents, when it comes to their own beliefs.

	Editors frequently resort to fallacies such as [[straw man]] arguments, ''[[ad hominem]]'' attacks, ''[[argumentum ad populum]]'', ''[[argumentum ad verecundiam]]'', ''[[argumentum ad lapidem]]'', [[appeals to emotion]] (including [[loaded language]]), ~~and~~ [[thought-terminating cliché]]s. Articles and talk page discussions typically (and often summarily) dismiss adherents to minority viewpoints as cranks and pseudoscientists. A prime example would be the RationalWiki article on the [[Austrian school]], which refers to Austrians as "a small group of cranks funded by even richer cranks through the von Mises Institute looking for self-serving rationalizations couched in the form of economic theory."<ref>http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Austrian_school&oldid=1064303</ref>		Editors frequently resort to fallacies such as [[straw man]] arguments, ''[[ad hominem]]'' attacks, ''[[argumentum ad populum]]'', ''[[argumentum ad verecundiam]]'', ''[[argumentum ad lapidem]]'', [[appeals to emotion]] (including [[loaded language]]), [[thought-terminating cliché]]s, and ''[[argumentum ad baculum]]'' (e.g. statements to the effect of "refrain from expressing dissident views on controversial topics, or we will ban you"). Articles and talk page discussions typically (and often summarily) dismiss adherents to minority viewpoints as cranks and pseudoscientists. A prime example would be the RationalWiki article on the [[Austrian school]], which refers to Austrians as "a small group of cranks funded by even richer cranks through the von Mises Institute looking for self-serving rationalizations couched in the form of economic theory."<ref>http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Austrian_school&oldid=1064303</ref>

	The site's unwillingness to adopt unpopular positions that are supported by facts and logic, or even in some cases to engage in argumentation about the factual and logical issues at hand, could be accurately described as [[pseudoskeptical]]. It is also noteworthy that, when the editors encounter a portion of an edit that they disagree with, they will often perform a wholesale revert (typically without providing any explanation), including eliminating proven and relevant facts, rather than reverting selectively. Restoring the facts is then considered disruptive edit-warring.		The site's unwillingness to adopt unpopular positions that are supported by facts and logic, or even in some cases to engage in argumentation about the factual and logical issues at hand, could be accurately described as [[pseudoskeptical]]. It is also noteworthy that, when the editors encounter a portion of an edit that they disagree with, they will often perform a wholesale revert (typically without providing any explanation), including eliminating proven and relevant facts, rather than reverting selectively. Restoring the facts is then considered disruptive edit-warring.
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	Some RWW users had also criticized the RWWW site owner for using a [[Creative Commons\|CC-by-SA]]-licensed image from their site without their permission and for giving the site a name that was a derivative of RationalWikiWiki's. They complained that this was inappropriate since the site was used for the voicing of opinions not representative of the views of RWW editors. The irony of a site whose own name was a derivative of "RationalWiki," and which devoted itself to critiquing and mocking that wiki, complaining about another site doing the same to it, seemed to escape them, as did the fact that the creation of an independent wiki for the purpose of ''agreeing'' with RWW would be pointless. The necessity of a fork arises when there are irreconcilable disagreements about site policy or content, and someone wants to break free of the restrictions imposed by those in control of a wiki by establishing a new wiki.		Some RWW users had also criticized the RWWW site owner for using a [[Creative Commons\|CC-by-SA]]-licensed image from their site without their permission and for giving the site a name that was a derivative of RationalWikiWiki's. They complained that this was inappropriate since the site was used for the voicing of opinions not representative of the views of RWW editors. The irony of a site whose own name was a derivative of "RationalWiki," and which devoted itself to critiquing and mocking that wiki, complaining about another site doing the same to it, seemed to escape them, as did the fact that the creation of an independent wiki for the purpose of ''agreeing'' with RWW would be pointless. The necessity of a fork arises when there are irreconcilable disagreements about site policy or content, and someone wants to break free of the restrictions imposed by those in control of a wiki by establishing a new wiki.

	Furthermore, there is a long history of organizations critical of other organizations or movements incorporating the name of the criticized organizations or movements in their own names. Examples would include Wikipedia Review, Right Wing Watch, School of the Americas Watch, and so on. Such names help the reader by making it immediately evident to him what organization or movement the group is devoted to criticizing. In the wake of the RW and RWW users' refusing to debate the RWWW users in any debate forum, under any set of rules, with any moderator, under any circumstances, on certain subjects of controversy, the RWWWians declared victory, noting that their opponents had effectively forfeited. However, they left the site in place as a memorial to the achievement.		Furthermore, there is a long history of organizations critical of other organizations or movements incorporating the name of the criticized organizations or movements in their own names. Examples would include Wikipedia Review, Right Wing Watch, School of the Americas Watch, and so on. Such names help the reader by making it immediately evident to him what organization or movement the group is devoted to criticizing. In the wake of the RW and RWW users' refusing to debate the RWWW users in any debate forum, under any set of rules, with any moderator, under any circumstances, on certain subjects of controversy; and the RW and RWW users' efforts to suppress expression of dissident viewpoints on not only their own sites but on other sites; the RWWWians declared victory, noting that their opponents had effectively [[forfeiture of debate\|forfeited]]. However, they left the RWWW site in place as a memorial to the achievement.

	Another site, RationalWikiWikiWikisWiki, provides commentary and meta-meta-meta-analysis on the various RationalWikiWikiWikis, past and present.<ref>http://rationalwikiwikiwikiswiki.referata.com/wiki/List_of_RationalWikiWikiWikis</ref> Presently, there is only one RationalWikiWikiWiki remaining, so RationalWikiWikiWikisWiki's name is a bit of a misnomer.		Another site, RationalWikiWikiWikisWiki, provides commentary and meta-meta-meta-analysis on the various RationalWikiWikiWikis, past and present.<ref>http://rationalwikiwikiwikiswiki.referata.com/wiki/List_of_RationalWikiWikiWikis</ref> Presently, there is only one RationalWikiWikiWiki remaining, so RationalWikiWikiWikisWiki's name is a bit of a misnomer.

FormerContributor-78162cb3 at 11:00, 14 September 2012

2012-09-14T11:00:44Z

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	Some RWW users had also criticized the RWWW site owner for using a [[Creative Commons\|CC-by-SA]]-licensed image from their site without their permission and for giving the site a name that was a derivative of RationalWikiWiki's. They complained that this was inappropriate since the site was used for the voicing of opinions not representative of the views of RWW editors. The irony of a site whose own name was a derivative of "RationalWiki," and which devoted itself to critiquing and mocking that wiki, complaining about another site doing the same to it, seemed to escape them, as did the fact that the creation of an independent wiki for the purpose of ''agreeing'' with RWW would be pointless. The necessity of a fork arises when there are irreconcilable disagreements about site policy or content, and someone wants to break free of the restrictions imposed by those in control of a wiki by establishing a new wiki.		Some RWW users had also criticized the RWWW site owner for using a [[Creative Commons\|CC-by-SA]]-licensed image from their site without their permission and for giving the site a name that was a derivative of RationalWikiWiki's. They complained that this was inappropriate since the site was used for the voicing of opinions not representative of the views of RWW editors. The irony of a site whose own name was a derivative of "RationalWiki," and which devoted itself to critiquing and mocking that wiki, complaining about another site doing the same to it, seemed to escape them, as did the fact that the creation of an independent wiki for the purpose of ''agreeing'' with RWW would be pointless. The necessity of a fork arises when there are irreconcilable disagreements about site policy or content, and someone wants to break free of the restrictions imposed by those in control of a wiki by establishing a new wiki.

	Furthermore, there is a long history of organizations critical of other organizations or movements incorporating the name of the criticized organizations or movements in their own names. Examples would include Wikipedia Review, Right Wing Watch, School of the Americas Watch, and so on. Such names help the reader by making it immediately evident to him what organization or movement the group is devoted to criticizing. In the wake of the RW and RWW users' refusing to debate the RWWW users in any debate forum, under any set of rules, with any moderator, under any circumstances, the RWWWians declared victory, noting that their opponents had effectively forfeited. However, they left the site in place as a memorial to the achievement.		Furthermore, there is a long history of organizations critical of other organizations or movements incorporating the name of the criticized organizations or movements in their own names. Examples would include Wikipedia Review, Right Wing Watch, School of the Americas Watch, and so on. Such names help the reader by making it immediately evident to him what organization or movement the group is devoted to criticizing. In the wake of the RW and RWW users' refusing to debate the RWWW users in any debate forum, under any set of rules, with any moderator, under any circumstances, on certain subjects of controversy, the RWWWians declared victory, noting that their opponents had effectively forfeited. However, they left the site in place as a memorial to the achievement.

	Another site, RationalWikiWikiWikisWiki, provides commentary and meta-meta-meta-analysis on the various RationalWikiWikiWikis, past and present.<ref>http://rationalwikiwikiwikiswiki.referata.com/wiki/List_of_RationalWikiWikiWikis</ref> Presently, there is only one RationalWikiWikiWiki remaining, so RationalWikiWikiWikisWiki's name is a bit of a misnomer.		Another site, RationalWikiWikiWikisWiki, provides commentary and meta-meta-meta-analysis on the various RationalWikiWikiWikis, past and present.<ref>http://rationalwikiwikiwikiswiki.referata.com/wiki/List_of_RationalWikiWikiWikis</ref> Presently, there is only one RationalWikiWikiWiki remaining, so RationalWikiWikiWikisWiki's name is a bit of a misnomer.

FormerContributor-78162cb3: /* RationalWikiWiki, RationalWikiWikiWiki, and RationalWikiWikiWikisWiki */

2012-09-14T08:29:14Z

RationalWikiWiki, RationalWikiWikiWiki, and RationalWikiWikiWikisWiki

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	Some RWW users had also criticized the RWWW site owner for using a [[Creative Commons\|CC-by-SA]]-licensed image from their site without their permission and for giving the site a name that was a derivative of RationalWikiWiki's. They complained that this was inappropriate since the site was used for the voicing of opinions not representative of the views of RWW editors. The irony of a site whose own name was a derivative of "RationalWiki," and which devoted itself to critiquing and mocking that wiki, complaining about another site doing the same to it, seemed to escape them, as did the fact that the creation of an independent wiki for the purpose of ''agreeing'' with RWW would be pointless. The necessity of a fork arises when there are irreconcilable disagreements about site policy or content, and someone wants to break free of the restrictions imposed by those in control of a wiki by establishing a new wiki.		Some RWW users had also criticized the RWWW site owner for using a [[Creative Commons\|CC-by-SA]]-licensed image from their site without their permission and for giving the site a name that was a derivative of RationalWikiWiki's. They complained that this was inappropriate since the site was used for the voicing of opinions not representative of the views of RWW editors. The irony of a site whose own name was a derivative of "RationalWiki," and which devoted itself to critiquing and mocking that wiki, complaining about another site doing the same to it, seemed to escape them, as did the fact that the creation of an independent wiki for the purpose of ''agreeing'' with RWW would be pointless. The necessity of a fork arises when there are irreconcilable disagreements about site policy or content, and someone wants to break free of the restrictions imposed by those in control of a wiki by establishing a new wiki.

	Furthermore, there is a long history of organizations critical of other organizations or movements incorporating the name of the criticized organizations or movements in their own names. Examples would include Wikipedia Review, Right Wing Watch, School of the Americas Watch, and so on. Such names help the reader by making it immediately evident to him what organization or movement the group is devoted to criticizing. Another site, RationalWikiWikiWikisWiki, provides commentary and meta-meta-meta-analysis on the various RationalWikiWikiWikis, past and present.<ref>http://rationalwikiwikiwikiswiki.referata.com/wiki/List_of_RationalWikiWikiWikis</ref>		Furthermore, there is a long history of organizations critical of other organizations or movements incorporating the name of the criticized organizations or movements in their own names. Examples would include Wikipedia Review, Right Wing Watch, School of the Americas Watch, and so on. Such names help the reader by making it immediately evident to him what organization or movement the group is devoted to criticizing. In the wake of the RW and RWW users' refusing to debate the RWWW users in any debate forum, under any set of rules, with any moderator, under any circumstances, the RWWWians declared victory, noting that their opponents had effectively forfeited. However, they left the site in place as a memorial to the achievement.

			Another site, RationalWikiWikiWikisWiki, provides commentary and meta-meta-meta-analysis on the various RationalWikiWikiWikis, past and present.<ref>http://rationalwikiwikiwikiswiki.referata.com/wiki/List_of_RationalWikiWikiWikis</ref> Presently, there is only one RationalWikiWikiWiki remaining, so RationalWikiWikiWikisWiki's name is a bit of a misnomer.

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