<?xml version="1.0"?>
<feed xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xml:lang="en">
	<id>https://wiki.freecapitalists.org/index.php?action=history&amp;feed=atom&amp;title=Collectivism</id>
	<title>Collectivism - Revision history</title>
	<link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="https://wiki.freecapitalists.org/index.php?action=history&amp;feed=atom&amp;title=Collectivism"/>
	<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.freecapitalists.org/index.php?title=Collectivism&amp;action=history"/>
	<updated>2026-08-16T03:44:03Z</updated>
	<subtitle>Revision history for this page on the wiki</subtitle>
	<generator>MediaWiki 1.43.9</generator>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.freecapitalists.org/index.php?title=Collectivism&amp;diff=18006&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Matthew at 01:57, 18 October 2011</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.freecapitalists.org/index.php?title=Collectivism&amp;diff=18006&amp;oldid=prev"/>
		<updated>2011-10-18T01:57:01Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;table style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122;&quot; data-mw=&quot;interface&quot;&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-content&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-content&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;tr class=&quot;diff-title&quot; lang=&quot;en&quot;&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 01:57, 18 October 2011&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l2&quot;&gt;Line 2:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 2:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Criticisms of collectivism==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Criticisms of collectivism==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[liberalism|Classical liberals]] have been consistent opponents of the collectivist position. [[Ludwig von Mises]] being one of the most vocal opponents, points out that the philosophy of collectivism is flawed in that collectives cannot be viewed as existing autonomously, &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;but &lt;/del&gt;instead they can only be analyzed through examining the actions of the individuals who compose them, i.e., from a [[methodological individualism|methodological individualistic]] point of view. A further criticism is the &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;choice &lt;/del&gt;of which individuals will &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;compose the &lt;/del&gt;collective &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;is arbitrary or as Mises says&lt;/del&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[liberalism|Classical liberals]] have been consistent opponents of the collectivist position. [[Ludwig von Mises]] being one of the most vocal opponents, points out that the philosophy of collectivism is flawed in that collectives cannot be viewed as existing autonomously, instead they can only be analyzed through examining the actions of the individuals who compose them, i.e., from a [[methodological individualism|methodological individualistic]] point of view. A further criticism is &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;based on the arbitrary nature that is accompanied in &lt;/ins&gt;the &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;determination &lt;/ins&gt;of which individuals will &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;be included in a &lt;/ins&gt;collective:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{Quote|There is no uniform collectivist ideology, but many collectivist doctrines. Each of them extols a different collectivist entity and requests all decent people to submit to it. Each sect worships its own idol and is intolerant of all rival idols. Each ordains total subjection of the individual, each is totalitarian&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;.&lt;/del&gt;.|Ludwig von Mises|&#039;&#039;[[Theory and History]]&#039;&#039;}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{Quote|There is no uniform collectivist ideology, but many collectivist doctrines. Each of them extols a different collectivist entity and requests all decent people to submit to it. Each sect worships its own idol and is intolerant of all rival idols. Each ordains total subjection of the individual, each is totalitarian.|Ludwig von Mises|&#039;&#039;[[Theory and History]]&#039;&#039;}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Another criticism relates to the collectivist view that the interests and desires of individuals are to give way to those of the collective&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, but &lt;/del&gt;how &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;are &lt;/del&gt;the interests of such an entity to be determined &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;but &lt;/del&gt;by &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;an &lt;/del&gt;arbitrary &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;decision by &lt;/del&gt;those in power? And how can these decisions reflect the actual desires of the collective rather then being solely based on the &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;values &lt;/del&gt;of the leaders?    &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Another criticism relates to the collectivist view that the interests and desires of individuals are to give way to those of the collective&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;. A view such as this leads to the dilemma of &lt;/ins&gt;how the interests of such an entity &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;are &lt;/ins&gt;to be determined&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, other than &lt;/ins&gt;by arbitrary &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;decisions of &lt;/ins&gt;those in power? And &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;furthermore &lt;/ins&gt;how can these decisions reflect the actual desires of the collective rather then being solely based on the &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;value judgement &lt;/ins&gt;of the leaders?    &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

&lt;!-- diff cache key wiki_freecapitalists_org_nCF8x6NO:diff:1.41:old-18005:rev-18006:php=table --&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Matthew</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.freecapitalists.org/index.php?title=Collectivism&amp;diff=18005&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Matthew at 01:49, 18 October 2011</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.freecapitalists.org/index.php?title=Collectivism&amp;diff=18005&amp;oldid=prev"/>
		<updated>2011-10-18T01:49:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;table style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122;&quot; data-mw=&quot;interface&quot;&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-content&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-content&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;tr class=&quot;diff-title&quot; lang=&quot;en&quot;&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 01:49, 18 October 2011&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Collectivism]] is a philosophical position and political doctrine which &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;holds &lt;/del&gt;that &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;universals &lt;/del&gt;have an &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;objective &lt;/del&gt;existence.&amp;lt;ref name=&quot;theoryhistory&quot;&amp;gt;[[Ludwig von Mises]]. [http://mises.org/resources.aspx?Id=&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;67f46c43&lt;/del&gt;-&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;d9cc&lt;/del&gt;-&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;4576&lt;/del&gt;-&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;8977&lt;/del&gt;-&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;d50da757cd6b 1. Methodological dualism], Introduction, [[&lt;/del&gt;Theory and History]&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]&lt;/del&gt;, pages 250-251.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;More specifically collectivist ideologies maintain that entities such as the state, society, or a nation have an autonomous existence apart from the individuals who compose it. &lt;/del&gt;Some extreme forms of collectivism even go as far as denying that individuals have an autonomous existence outside of the collective.&amp;lt;ref name=&quot;theoryhistory&quot; /&amp;gt; A further characteristic of collectivism is the belief that the will or interests of the collective should come before the interests of individuals.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Ludwig von Mises]]. [http://mises.org/books/ufofes/ &quot;The Ultimate Foundation of Economic Science&quot;], 1962.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Collectivism is a central characteristic of ideologies such as [[communism]], [[socialism]], and [[fascism]] and can be seen as the antithesis of the philosophical position of [[individualism]].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Collectivism]] is a philosophical position and political doctrine which &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;maintains &lt;/ins&gt;that &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;entities such as the state, society, or a nation &lt;/ins&gt;have an &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;autonomous &lt;/ins&gt;existence &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;apart from the individuals who compose it&lt;/ins&gt;.&amp;lt;ref name=&quot;theoryhistory&quot;&amp;gt;[[Ludwig von Mises]]. [http://mises.org/resources.aspx?Id=&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;d114e50f&lt;/ins&gt;-&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;c3dc&lt;/ins&gt;-&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;438f&lt;/ins&gt;-&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;86e9&lt;/ins&gt;-&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;ab6c77a23dc8  &lt;/ins&gt;Theory and History]&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, 1985&lt;/ins&gt;, pages 250-251.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Some extreme forms of collectivism even go as far as denying that individuals have an autonomous existence outside of the collective.&amp;lt;ref name=&quot;theoryhistory&quot; /&amp;gt; A further characteristic of collectivism is the belief that the will or interests of the collective should come before the interests of individuals.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Ludwig von Mises]]. [http://mises.org/books/ufofes/ &quot;The Ultimate Foundation of Economic Science&quot;], 1962.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Collectivism is a central characteristic of ideologies such as [[communism]], [[socialism]], and [[fascism]] and can be seen as the antithesis of the philosophical position of [[individualism]].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Criticisms of collectivism==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Criticisms of collectivism==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[liberalism|Classical liberals]] have been consistent opponents of the collectivist position. [[Ludwig von Mises]] being one of the most vocal opponents, points out that the philosophy of collectivism is flawed in that collectives &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;can not &lt;/del&gt;be viewed as existing autonomously, but instead they can only be analyzed through examining the actions of the individuals who compose them, i.e., from a [[methodological individualism|methodological individualistic]] point of view. A further criticism is the choice of which individuals will compose the collective is arbitrary or as Mises says:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[liberalism|Classical liberals]] have been consistent opponents of the collectivist position. [[Ludwig von Mises]] being one of the most vocal opponents, points out that the philosophy of collectivism is flawed in that collectives &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;cannot &lt;/ins&gt;be viewed as existing autonomously, but instead they can only be analyzed through examining the actions of the individuals who compose them, i.e., from a [[methodological individualism|methodological individualistic]] point of view. A further criticism is the choice of which individuals will compose the collective is arbitrary or as Mises says:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{Quote|There is no uniform collectivist ideology, but many collectivist doctrines. Each of them extols a different collectivist entity and requests all decent people to submit to it. Each sect worships its own idol and is intolerant of all rival idols. Each ordains total subjection of the individual, each is totalitarian..|Ludwig von Mises|&amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Theory and History]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{Quote|There is no uniform collectivist ideology, but many collectivist doctrines. Each of them extols a different collectivist entity and requests all decent people to submit to it. Each sect worships its own idol and is intolerant of all rival idols. Each ordains total subjection of the individual, each is totalitarian..|Ludwig von Mises|&amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Theory and History]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

&lt;!-- diff cache key wiki_freecapitalists_org_nCF8x6NO:diff:1.41:old-18004:rev-18005:php=table --&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Matthew</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.freecapitalists.org/index.php?title=Collectivism&amp;diff=18004&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Matthew: fixed typo</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.freecapitalists.org/index.php?title=Collectivism&amp;diff=18004&amp;oldid=prev"/>
		<updated>2011-10-18T01:22:04Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;fixed typo&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;table style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122;&quot; data-mw=&quot;interface&quot;&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-content&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-content&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;tr class=&quot;diff-title&quot; lang=&quot;en&quot;&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 01:22, 18 October 2011&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l5&quot;&gt;Line 5:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 5:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{Quote|There is no uniform collectivist ideology, but many collectivist doctrines. Each of them extols a different collectivist entity and requests all decent people to submit to it. Each sect worships its own idol and is intolerant of all rival idols. Each ordains total subjection of the individual, each is totalitarian..|Ludwig von Mises|&amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Theory and History]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{Quote|There is no uniform collectivist ideology, but many collectivist doctrines. Each of them extols a different collectivist entity and requests all decent people to submit to it. Each sect worships its own idol and is intolerant of all rival idols. Each ordains total subjection of the individual, each is totalitarian..|Ludwig von Mises|&amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Theory and History]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Another criticism relates to the collectivist view that the interests and desires of individuals are to give way to those of the collective, but how are the interests of such an entity to be determined but by an arbitrary decision by those in power? And how can these decisions reflect the actual desires of the collective rather then being &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;be &lt;/del&gt;solely based on the values of the leaders?    &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Another criticism relates to the collectivist view that the interests and desires of individuals are to give way to those of the collective, but how are the interests of such an entity to be determined but by an arbitrary decision by those in power? And how can these decisions reflect the actual desires of the collective rather then being solely based on the values of the leaders?    &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

&lt;!-- diff cache key wiki_freecapitalists_org_nCF8x6NO:diff:1.41:old-18003:rev-18004:php=table --&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Matthew</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.freecapitalists.org/index.php?title=Collectivism&amp;diff=18003&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Matthew: create</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.freecapitalists.org/index.php?title=Collectivism&amp;diff=18003&amp;oldid=prev"/>
		<updated>2011-10-17T20:35:55Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;create&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Collectivism]] is a philosophical position and political doctrine which holds that universals have an objective existence.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;theoryhistory&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[Ludwig von Mises]]. [http://mises.org/resources.aspx?Id=67f46c43-d9cc-4576-8977-d50da757cd6b 1. Methodological dualism], Introduction, [[Theory and History]], pages 250-251.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; More specifically collectivist ideologies maintain that entities such as the state, society, or a nation have an autonomous existence apart from the individuals who compose it. Some extreme forms of collectivism even go as far as denying that individuals have an autonomous existence outside of the collective.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;theoryhistory&amp;quot; /&amp;gt; A further characteristic of collectivism is the belief that the will or interests of the collective should come before the interests of individuals.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Ludwig von Mises]]. [http://mises.org/books/ufofes/ &amp;quot;The Ultimate Foundation of Economic Science&amp;quot;], 1962.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Collectivism is a central characteristic of ideologies such as [[communism]], [[socialism]], and [[fascism]] and can be seen as the antithesis of the philosophical position of [[individualism]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Criticisms of collectivism==&lt;br /&gt;
[[liberalism|Classical liberals]] have been consistent opponents of the collectivist position. [[Ludwig von Mises]] being one of the most vocal opponents, points out that the philosophy of collectivism is flawed in that collectives can not be viewed as existing autonomously, but instead they can only be analyzed through examining the actions of the individuals who compose them, i.e., from a [[methodological individualism|methodological individualistic]] point of view. A further criticism is the choice of which individuals will compose the collective is arbitrary or as Mises says:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Quote|There is no uniform collectivist ideology, but many collectivist doctrines. Each of them extols a different collectivist entity and requests all decent people to submit to it. Each sect worships its own idol and is intolerant of all rival idols. Each ordains total subjection of the individual, each is totalitarian..|Ludwig von Mises|&amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Theory and History]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Another criticism relates to the collectivist view that the interests and desires of individuals are to give way to those of the collective, but how are the interests of such an entity to be determined but by an arbitrary decision by those in power? And how can these decisions reflect the actual desires of the collective rather then being be solely based on the values of the leaders?   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
{{reflist}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Links==&lt;br /&gt;
* {{wplink}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Concepts]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{Stub}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Matthew</name></author>
	</entry>
</feed>