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== Extensions and interwiki links ==

A few questions:
# What Wikimedia extensions are installed here?
# What types of interwiki links are available for external wiki-linking? [[User:Mcornelius|Mcornelius]] 03:59, 12 November 2010 (CST)
:The extensions we have right now can be seen at [[Special:Version]]: we have categorytree, charinsert, parserfunctions, and cite. If we need more, however, we can ask our developers to install them.
:As far as interwiki links go, it looks like we can use the full names of Wikimedia wikis, but not shortcuts. So, [[wikipedia:Ludwig von Mises]] or [[wiktionary:praxeology]]. For Wikisource, we have to specify the language: [[wikisource:en:The Law]]. --[[User:Forgottenman|Forgottenman]] ([[User talk:Forgottenman|talk]]) 06:49, 12 November 2010 (CST)

==Rights==
Seems like your rights issue is solved --[[User:Jatucker|Jatucker]] 12:16, 12 November 2010 (CST)
:What do you mean? --[[User:Forgottenman|Forgottenman]] ([[User talk:Forgottenman|talk]]) 12:24, 12 November 2010 (CST)
::I thought your permissions were somehow limited but I see that they are not --[[User:Jatucker|Jatucker]] 16:09, 12 November 2010 (CST)
:::No, you gave me "bureaucrat" status, which is pretty much the highest available without being a developer. --[[User:Forgottenman|Forgottenman]] ([[User talk:Forgottenman|talk]]) 18:57, 12 November 2010 (CST)

== Missing Templates ==

Impressive work on all the background mechanisms, Forgottenman! May I request a few more templates for citing resources, that seem to be necessary for the many articles and parts imported from Wikipedia (e.g. [[Austrian School|here]])? [[User:Pestergaines|Pestergaines]] 08:25, 16 November 2010 (CST)
:I'll have a look; they would be useful. Hopefully though their existence doesn't encourage more copy / pastes from Wikipedia... we have the opportunity to create articles that have much more detail and a less restrictive license, but if we start with WP text, our article is a derivative work of WP forever. --[[User:Forgottenman|Forgottenman]] ([[User talk:Forgottenman|talk]]) 08:42, 16 November 2010 (CST)
::Well, we can always start from scratch if needed. :)
::Oh, and: big thanks for help with the BookSources! It's a small detail, but very useful when needed! [[User:Pestergaines|Pestergaines]] 14:41, 16 November 2010 (CST)
:::I'm thinking that starting from scratch may be a good idea. I'm not convinced that converting everything into metadata is really that useful. I'll start by adapting Wikiqoute's model of cite journal and we can go from there. --[[User:Forgottenman|Forgottenman]] ([[User talk:Forgottenman|talk]]) 14:54, 16 November 2010 (CST)

[http://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Full_reserve_banking#cite_note-5 Full reserve banking] has also some template error, as in [[Criticism of fractional reserve banking|this]]; and a video template is required [[Peter Schiff|here]]. That is hopefully all!

On a different topic - do you think it would make sense to start organizing projects in this wiki, or is that premature? [[User:Pestergaines|Pestergaines]] 06:15, 17 November 2010 (CST)
:I'll try to take a look at those templates later today. Are you talking about Wikiprojects? Setting them up is probably best done by someone interested in the subject and not for its own sake – so I wouldn't suggest creating a wide variety of projects, but if there's a particular subject or type of article that interests you, go for it. Active projects can be great ways for people to get involved; abandoned projects make the place look like a big empty building. --[[User:Forgottenman|Forgottenman]] ([[User talk:Forgottenman|talk]]) 09:40, 17 November 2010 (CST)
::I've created the [[MisesWiki:WikiProject Economic History]], although the name seems a little unwieldy. Before I start creating more pages, do you think the name and (category) is appropriate, or could we shorten WikiProject to Project? [[User:Pestergaines|Pestergaines]] 05:51, 20 November 2010 (CST)
:::Sounds fine to me. --[[User:Forgottenman|Forgottenman]] ([[User talk:Forgottenman|talk]]) 09:32, 22 November 2010 (CST)

Would it be possible to get some CSS added to [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] to fix the formatting on [[Template:Header]]? I would do it myself but I don't have the required permissions. [[User:Anarchei|Anarchei]] 01:43, 29 November 2010 (CST)

==Innovation and original work.==
I've already logged in and made a very small edit to the mises wiki: pollution. I'm trained in sustainable development and pollution related problems and solutions. All I've done is add the word '''soil''' pollution to the list. Its often overlooked but it is useful because it illustrates the property rights, disclosure aspect, knowledge issues and the issue of people going to the hazard.

My question is not about pollution, its about charity and new tools like [http://www.thepoint.com/ The Point], hopefully you know of that because of Bob Murphy's challenge to Krugman.
Both need to be covered but in many cases the ideas of using charitable solutions are very new, particularly using the pledge based strategy in the Point, would they be considered original work?
Charity is critical because we often argue that charity can pick up some key externalities or public goods; particularly welfare. However charities are very restricted, often because they compete with government as a solution, [ Marx saw them as the major threat to socialism and Lenin wiped out church based charities in the first months ]. They have cash flow problems often because they are "not for profit" and this restricts their investment and banking options and because of donor fatigue and recipient privacy constraints. There's much stuff on this in the writings but its blurred a bit by Ayn Rand's opposition to religion and charity. [Yes I know she's not an Austrian school but most don't know that.] How do we deal with the newest solutions.
I've done some work in this field: [http://appliedimpossibilies.blogspot.com/2010/07/saving-world-by-burying-greens.html Saving the world by burying greens.]
The catch is that in a wiki sense this is classic ''"original work"'' but there are so few of us this could become a largish problem. What's plan A when your the only Austrian school player writing in a given field?
[[User:Wesleybruce|Wesleybruce]] 00:07, 17 November 2010 (CST)

:There are writings around on pretty much any topic, but sometimes one needs to pick and choose a little. A Stub for [[Charity]] was created with a few links that could be of use - perhaps that could help out? [[User:Pestergaines|Pestergaines]] 05:39, 17 November 2010 (CST)
:Regarding "original work," I wouldn't worry about it too much. I doubt that we are going to be as hardheaded about that as Wikipedia is in articles on "new" subjects. The preferred approach might be to build articles based on current work, with references, and then branch off based on that. Thus, Hayek said xyz about charity (he didn't think it had much hope of solving the problem), but his paradigm didn't include new charity options. Or Walter Block and Murry Rothbard say xyz about pollution, but other areas that haven't been looked into are ___.
:You might also get in touch with Stephan Kinsella; he runs Libertarian Papers and if you put something together he might be inclined to have it reviewed and published, especially in a new area like this. That way we'd end up with a published, reliable article to cite. --[[User:Forgottenman|Forgottenman]] ([[User talk:Forgottenman|talk]]) 07:10, 17 November 2010 (CST)

==Mises Bust for Meritorious Editing==
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:That put a smile on my face. Just awesome; thanks. --[[User:Forgottenman|Forgottenman]] ([[User talk:Forgottenman|talk]]) 13:20, 19 November 2010 (CST)

== The 'Anniversaries' project ==

Hey, Forgot, a question: With all the unfinished anniversary pages, might you be able to create a little "Project Page" (like the "Economic History" project) that gives us a few guidelines about what to put where? I was wondering because the anniversary dates show up as top-ranked in the [[Special:WantedPages|Most wanted pages]] list and it might be helpful for us folks to know how to add things. Thanks in advance! -- [[User:RayBirks|RayBirks]] 14:32, 27 November 2010 (CST)
:I've added instructions to [[MisesWiki:Anniversaries]]. --[[User:Forgottenman|Forgottenman]] ([[User talk:Forgottenman|talk]]) 16:04, 27 November 2010 (CST)
::Yes, noticed almost right away. Thanks! -- [[User:RayBirks|RayBirks]] 18:16, 27 November 2010 (CST) Wondering now about:

==The concept of "Projects"==
Our only official "project" to date is the [[MisesWiki:WikiProject Economic History|Economic history project]]. Do these four pages qualify as "projects" worthy of the category "WikiProjects" ?

:* [[MisesWiki:Meetups|Meetups]]
:* [[MisesWiki:Anniversaries|Anniversaries]]
:* [[MisesWiki:Current events|Current events]]
:* [[MisesWiki:Community portal|Community portal]]

They all have "project page" as their first tab, yet I don't see any code inside the Economic History project page that makes it unique to be a special project. Seems these four may also be special cases needing focus, building, expansion, explanations, etc. Am not pushing hard for these necessarily. I am just looking to see if these deserve the designation. Thanks for your thoughts as time permits. Maybe we can discuss this in our soon-to-be-developed forum! :) If this is too much for your talk page, I could move to the Google mailing list, if you like. -- [[User:RayBirks|RayBirks]] 18:16, 27 November 2010 (CST)
:On Wikipedia at least the Wikiprojects are primarily for content creation or specific maintenance tasks. My preference would be to continue in that tradition; the other pages you mention seem different from that. "Anniversaries" would be closest, I think, to being an actual Wikiproject, but the thing is that it really isn't a project that will need a lot of maintenance once it is set up (though that will take at least several months). I'd say put it on the Community portal to draw attention to it, but I wouldn't call it a wikiproject. --[[User:Forgottenman|Forgottenman]] ([[User talk:Forgottenman|talk]]) 19:55, 27 November 2010 (CST)
::'k. -- [[User:RayBirks|RayBirks]] 21:03, 27 November 2010 (CST)

== Placement of stub tags ==

The stubs category page had suggested including the tag at either the beginning or the end of the article. As I see you moving them to the end of various pages, shall we change the instruction as well? Thanks for all your good works. -- [[User:RayBirks|RayBirks]] 11:09, 29 November 2010 (CST)
:Thanks, I didn't realize it said that. If anyone disagrees with my edit comment in my edit to [[:Category:Article stubs|that page]], I'm happy to discuss it. --[[User:Forgottenman|Forgottenman]] ([[User talk:Forgottenman|talk]]) 11:19, 29 November 2010 (CST)

== idioms ==

Hello
Can i write in spanish my contributions, changes and wikis?

thanks.

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